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		By: Gregg Lorenz		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you all for reading my post and responding to my thoughts on Cam York, but let’s look at the facts and why York’s trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now, before everyone realizes he is too small to ever play D in the NHL.

I watched York at last year’s Flyer’s development camp, then all of Team USA’s  U-20 World Junior Champiomship games last winter, plus 3/4 of his games playing in Big 10 for Michigan. York is small and his height and weight appear less than listed in his profile.

Here are his positive skills:
Sees ice extremely well
Skates well, Great passer, anticipates play before it happens, finds open man with nearly every pass, outstanding on running point on PP, gets back on D quickly, good shot from point.

Here are his negatives:
Does not defend well in own end, poor at retrieving puck under pressure, bad along defensive  boards versus bigger players, poor defending in crease against bigger players(which is pretty much every opposing forward), cannot defend on PK due to lack of size, uses a really small stick which makes him ineffective blocking cross ice  passes and pushing opponent’s farther out in O zone.

Cam York looked really small at the Flyer’s development camp last year, especially next to other prospects. He did not get a lot of ice time for Team USA in the last U-20 World Junior Tournament playing the role of 7th defenseman, but was on the top PP unit which was pretty much all of his ice time(half of every PP)

This year at Michigan, he looked good offensively, but mediocre in his own end. He has trouble playing against physical forwards and if he can’t handle college physicality, he will definitely be eaten alive in the NHL. Hopefully York has a lot of growing to do, both in height and weight, but his upper body is really small.

I really like Wyatt Kalynuk, not Cam York, as a future Flyer defenseman. Kalynuk is two years older than York, but he is far and away better than York. Even a better pro style puck mover and he  shows a lot of creativity on the ice, maybe a lot more than York, plus Kalynuk is outstanding defensively, especially retrieving and moving puck back up the ice.

To those of you who are enamored with York, I suggest you look at him the next time fans can attend and watch the Flyer’s prospects on the ice, at the Skate Zone in Voorhees.  I loved Shayne Gostisbehere and still do, but York is smaller and as we know, the NHL is not kind to small defensemen. Small defensemen, who must avoid hits, turn the puck over.-Gregg Lorenz, Morrisville PA

PS, Robert Hagg is an asset.  He is the Flyer’s most physical defenseman and his improvement and confidence continue to progress. He is becoming a shutdown defenseman vs top NHL players and lines]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for reading my post and responding to my thoughts on Cam York, but let’s look at the facts and why York’s trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now, before everyone realizes he is too small to ever play D in the NHL.</p>
<p>I watched York at last year’s Flyer’s development camp, then all of Team USA’s  U-20 World Junior Champiomship games last winter, plus 3/4 of his games playing in Big 10 for Michigan. York is small and his height and weight appear less than listed in his profile.</p>
<p>Here are his positive skills:<br />
Sees ice extremely well<br />
Skates well, Great passer, anticipates play before it happens, finds open man with nearly every pass, outstanding on running point on PP, gets back on D quickly, good shot from point.</p>
<p>Here are his negatives:<br />
Does not defend well in own end, poor at retrieving puck under pressure, bad along defensive  boards versus bigger players, poor defending in crease against bigger players(which is pretty much every opposing forward), cannot defend on PK due to lack of size, uses a really small stick which makes him ineffective blocking cross ice  passes and pushing opponent’s farther out in O zone.</p>
<p>Cam York looked really small at the Flyer’s development camp last year, especially next to other prospects. He did not get a lot of ice time for Team USA in the last U-20 World Junior Tournament playing the role of 7th defenseman, but was on the top PP unit which was pretty much all of his ice time(half of every PP)</p>
<p>This year at Michigan, he looked good offensively, but mediocre in his own end. He has trouble playing against physical forwards and if he can’t handle college physicality, he will definitely be eaten alive in the NHL. Hopefully York has a lot of growing to do, both in height and weight, but his upper body is really small.</p>
<p>I really like Wyatt Kalynuk, not Cam York, as a future Flyer defenseman. Kalynuk is two years older than York, but he is far and away better than York. Even a better pro style puck mover and he  shows a lot of creativity on the ice, maybe a lot more than York, plus Kalynuk is outstanding defensively, especially retrieving and moving puck back up the ice.</p>
<p>To those of you who are enamored with York, I suggest you look at him the next time fans can attend and watch the Flyer’s prospects on the ice, at the Skate Zone in Voorhees.  I loved Shayne Gostisbehere and still do, but York is smaller and as we know, the NHL is not kind to small defensemen. Small defensemen, who must avoid hits, turn the puck over.-Gregg Lorenz, Morrisville PA</p>
<p>PS, Robert Hagg is an asset.  He is the Flyer’s most physical defenseman and his improvement and confidence continue to progress. He is becoming a shutdown defenseman vs top NHL players and lines</p>
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		By: Lance Green		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2020 12:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gentlemen you all make vaild points.  I don&#039;t think York will get traded simply because he&#039;s a guy that Chuck just drafted himself.  It would be like saying he thinks he made a mistake in his 1st draft. However, although I do think York has potential, he did not impress me this yr at Michigan. He&#039;s still young and will continue to develop. I was thinking that the Flyers should get rid of some guys that are all ready under contract in the AHL and ECHL that AREN&#039;T named Frost or Ratcliffe. The idea of this article was to free up availability to sign players. Trading un-signed players won&#039;t help us.  It would obviously take more then just them to get a deal done, but they should be the main starting point. No way should we trade Hagg!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen you all make vaild points.  I don&#8217;t think York will get traded simply because he&#8217;s a guy that Chuck just drafted himself.  It would be like saying he thinks he made a mistake in his 1st draft. However, although I do think York has potential, he did not impress me this yr at Michigan. He&#8217;s still young and will continue to develop. I was thinking that the Flyers should get rid of some guys that are all ready under contract in the AHL and ECHL that AREN&#8217;T named Frost or Ratcliffe. The idea of this article was to free up availability to sign players. Trading un-signed players won&#8217;t help us.  It would obviously take more then just them to get a deal done, but they should be the main starting point. No way should we trade Hagg!</p>
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		By: Peesinwind		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2020 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://flyersnittygritty.com/addition-by-subtraction-for-the-flyers/#comment-532&quot;&gt;Jeff Gruntz&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. That makes more sense.

Gregg, your assessment of York is off by a good bit. This guy is the real deal. He has the talent to be ghost and to shut down top lines. There was a reason that the Flyers passed on Cole C. In the draft to get York. He is legit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://flyersnittygritty.com/addition-by-subtraction-for-the-flyers/#comment-532">Jeff Gruntz</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. That makes more sense.</p>
<p>Gregg, your assessment of York is off by a good bit. This guy is the real deal. He has the talent to be ghost and to shut down top lines. There was a reason that the Flyers passed on Cole C. In the draft to get York. He is legit.</p>
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		By: Jeff Gruntz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe the suggestion to trade York. If you&#039;re trading York, it&#039;s part of a package to land someone who is an elite top line player, which isn&#039;t a realistic option with the expansion draft coming up. The Flyers will more than likely be losing a defenseman in that draft, so that makes York even more valuable. Now if it were say Robert Hagg or Sam Morin, I&#039;d be more inclined to move one of them for Lesperance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe the suggestion to trade York. If you&#8217;re trading York, it&#8217;s part of a package to land someone who is an elite top line player, which isn&#8217;t a realistic option with the expansion draft coming up. The Flyers will more than likely be losing a defenseman in that draft, so that makes York even more valuable. Now if it were say Robert Hagg or Sam Morin, I&#8217;d be more inclined to move one of them for Lesperance.</p>
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		By: Peesinwind		</title>
		<link>https://flyersnittygritty.com/addition-by-subtraction-for-the-flyers/#comment-531</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 21:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://flyersnittygritty.com/addition-by-subtraction-for-the-flyers/#comment-530&quot;&gt;Gregg Lorenz&lt;/a&gt;.

That would be a huge mistake. Outside of Frost, York is the Flyers best prospect. The kid has NHL in his future. May even be a top pairing and power play quarterback type player. You don’t give that up for a bottom six winger. Bill Meltzer has York as the top Flyer prospect right now.

And yeah, he was the youngest defender on that world team. He will be running the U20 power play and on the top pair next year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://flyersnittygritty.com/addition-by-subtraction-for-the-flyers/#comment-530">Gregg Lorenz</a>.</p>
<p>That would be a huge mistake. Outside of Frost, York is the Flyers best prospect. The kid has NHL in his future. May even be a top pairing and power play quarterback type player. You don’t give that up for a bottom six winger. Bill Meltzer has York as the top Flyer prospect right now.</p>
<p>And yeah, he was the youngest defender on that world team. He will be running the U20 power play and on the top pair next year.</p>
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		By: Gregg Lorenz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting points. The Flyers do need grit and muscle on the wing and L’Esperance looks perfect to fill that role. I would trade Cam York for him. York, last year’s Flyer’ first round draft pick, is a highly skilled defenseman who is too small to play in the NHL anytime soon, maybe ever. Because he was an outstanding player for Team USA with Jack Hughes, Joel Farabee, Quinn Hughes etc, he looked great, but without them in the last U-20 World juniors, he looked barely visible and wound up being Team USA’ 7th defenseman.  York would be the perfect bait to get L’Esperance away from Dallas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points. The Flyers do need grit and muscle on the wing and L’Esperance looks perfect to fill that role. I would trade Cam York for him. York, last year’s Flyer’ first round draft pick, is a highly skilled defenseman who is too small to play in the NHL anytime soon, maybe ever. Because he was an outstanding player for Team USA with Jack Hughes, Joel Farabee, Quinn Hughes etc, he looked great, but without them in the last U-20 World juniors, he looked barely visible and wound up being Team USA’ 7th defenseman.  York would be the perfect bait to get L’Esperance away from Dallas.</p>
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